1991-1006-Augies-Apartment-Raleigh

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Title	1991-1006-Augies-Apartment-Raleigh
Recorded date	October 6, 1991
Location	Augie's apartment, Raleigh
Number of tapes	2 x 90
Other recorders audible?	Video. This may or may not be audio extracted from the video
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Source	SH purchased, white cassette, hand lettered
No. of MP3 files	4 x 45 min each
Total time	3 hrs
Transcription status	Extensive notes Jan 18, 2015
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Identifiable voices	Bart, Augie, George B., Fred, several others
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Notes

Date is on cassettes

From purchased white cassettes, hand lettering, SH collection.

This is different from Augie’s apartment 1993

R mentions that there will be a lecture tomorrow.

Dec 25, 2013 - note: Where did this info come from? In 1991-Unitarian-Church my note says the tape is missing. – SH

File 1

And then the back end went over the high bank, running board, took a tree out

Took the power wagon and winched it to a tree

Farm back in West Virginia

Could never afford anything but a junker.

Going up 29th street hill. Messina, Labowitz, Osgood, got

Hose to carburetor broke, gas on fire, going down the hill, flame out of back of truck

Now going down the hill. Nightclub there, new asphalt driveway. Kid yells “fire”

Turned off into asphalt, steered back onto highway, down steep grade

Telephone poles going faster and faster

Dave Messina was a good Catholic, saying his prayers before he died, talking to Jesus

Larry was a Jew and didn’t have any hope of immortality, bravest man in the car

Got off in a ditch, dragged the bottom of the car on the ridge, threw a wheel in a deep ditch, finally stopped

Augie: All the bodhisattvas evacuated

Tractor trailer stopped, had fire extinguisher

Augie: went back and stripped the car

Went back, got the gas out of the tank

Lecturing in Pittsburgh

Two or three places, lecturing every week

Carried 4 spare tires, 4 gallons of mixed antifreeze in the winter time

Baloney skins

Two flat tires, pulled off, bridge, concrete railing, car jacked up, tractor trailers 70 mph..

It was fun, I was doing what I wanted to do for the first time in my life. Nothing else mattered

Psychology of the Observer picture, Myrtle Beach

Aviary

Statue, Huntington, husband and wife were sculptors

Enormous oaks

This was my idea of the spiritual life of man

Each person trying to chop himself out of the materialistic life.

(Somebody comes in)

9:28

Takes them too seriously, didn’t used to (cooking)

Paul Wood – I often wonder if he’s still alive

Couldn’t tell his age

I was married at the time. Sometime between 1930 and 1950

Bob Martin very deeply interested in all these movements

He was initiated into Yognanda

Dingle, wrote Across China On Foot, phony book. Never left the country.

Augie: How did Martin meet Paul Wood?

Bob Martin Texas, west of San Antonio, laboratory, Tom Slick

Experiments, breathing suppression, Interplanetary travel, wnted to get a guy into suspended animation,

14:00

Tom Slick interested in Buddhism, etc. I never met Tom Slick

Paul Wood had an experience

Devout Christian

God observes the fall of the sparrow

Started talking to himself, shipped him back to the states

Car dealership in San Antonio

mental agony from it; it worried the life out of him

So he takes the Lord’s Prayer, of course it drove him nuts.

prayed for God to kill him

he was out for ten days.

In those 10 days he was free, travelling

When he woke up he realized he was immortal

Bob got him to come up to Akron

Crazy Guggenheim

His eyes were hooded, white. He would be waking down the street with Bob Martin

Battle of Gettysburg

Had a wife and some children, she shoved him out the door

He rented himself a little room someplace

Moved from there to Oklahoma

picked up a new wife

about 25 years of age

in Akron, whole lot of officials from Firestone

Bob Martin had 10 kids

these guys were all questioning him

“When you’re working for God you don’t have to worry about food, or anything.”

I believe that

Somebody gave him a car

“I don’t worry about it; I think I’ll be supplied with whatever I need”

In kitchen had an onion and soup bone

One of the ranchers came in with a quarter of beef

by the time he was ready to starve, something would turn up

Martin, “Paul, I wish you hadn’t told that.”

I said, “Bob, shut up.”

She came in, she’s passing out the coffee.

She never missed a drop. ‘He is my lord and master.”

I knew that he made the trip

he wasn’t selling anything

Ability to go to almost any time in history

Swedenborg had this

Augie: Experience identical?

No. Identical in that there was no time

They will all be slightly different

What did they learn?

akashic records

he didn’t need anybody of authority; knew that he was eternal, immortal. I wonder what’s in between

person enters a bardo

that’s all they understand

Buddha was asked – what happened to people when they die, they’re different

joke, Protest and went to heaven, St Peter met him,

“What’s on the other side of that wall?” “Don’t talk so loud, that’s the

Albigen system is nothing more than challenging definitions

Paul Wood, “It’s not God’s will that we should be ignorant.”

rabbits and chickens programmed to jump

Augie: thought that Paul Wood – was a vector

He went through a tremendous argument with himself

too late for definitions

when you die and you realize you’re conscious that’s all that matters

tremendous joy

Wood didn’t care if people didn’t believe it

his sincerity was there

looks like a fat man who’s been hit on the head with a skittle

preconceptions

Q. Did he know you had an experience?

Never talked to him about it

have to have an overwhelming desire

he died

I tried to move around but I came back, woke up abruptly

paper on the Lord’s Prayer

line by line

worked it back and forth

I wrote a letter, “I don’t sin”

human being is a poor helpless animal

This is a relative world; we have good and evil

there is no good In evil. there’s nothing bad, everybody does the best they can

they’ve left you out of the nuthouse

he was happy

Albigen Papers is not a sweet talking piece of literature

I never talked to him directly

no two awakenings are the same

a lot of stuff is partial

person gets inspired

developed a faculty

Q. Every met anybody who’s experience was the same

R. I corresponded with some people

The whole thing about achievement is that you have to have a mad dog attitude

Buehler: sense of a moral code

I don’t to rock the boat

I always wait to give myself a period of time to see if score is settled by somebody else

Q. Franz Hartmann:

he believes in purity

Pure living. if your mind is impure it’s exceedingly materialistic

people interested in sea shells, smart rocks, channeling

entitles move in

discarnate entities

exposed nerve sheaths

that doesn’t mean a person who reproduces is not going to go to heaven

this body, what we are doing here, we are produced by someone or organization …

[break in tape]

[file 1 ends at 45:07]

File 2

00:00

the sand on the beach

terrestrial purpose for us being here

planetary growth

some esoteric speakers believe

Blavatsky

can’t be proven

complexity of the human brain

neurotransmitters, prostaglandins

these things work together, one affects the other

when I was in school they were observing electrons with shadows

when you tilt one way, something tries to tilt you back

Augie was running a tape, encephalitis

all they talk about is chemicals

but they’re missing the whole point

the mind affects the brain

train yourself to forget

how can we evolve from a little sperm and egg

DNA what activates it?

then the long term thing. What’s going on

you’ll see a plan even in international wars

06:00

tremendous fine parts, molecules, living cells

chemicals I neurotransmitters

Q. things you can’t explain

I will explain it tomorrow evening <<<<< missing talk 1991-1007-North-Carolina-missing-tape

Q. was your experience something was given to you?

R. You mean for being good?

There’s nobody out there but me

I went unconscious before it happened

either an automatic mechanism

I was allowed to come through

I knew that there was nobody but me

there are different ways of describing that

Q. Do you think you will go back?

I’ll be back, sure

Had a pain right here

thought it was death, stroke

Seattle, Washington

window was closed, went through the window

I was tremendously happy

I knew that I had won

I saw the human race

millions of people coming up the side of that hill

Three books of the Absolute

they looked like they were stupefied

Somebody showed me some movies

a lot of this was just indications

spiritualists believe there are different planes, causal plane

Adam and Eve

I’ve got a 10, 11 year old child

necessary to keep me harmless

[somebody comes in]

I didn’t see God

Q. did you come back with a clear idea of what to do next

I try to find words

got to pick words, they become material

to come back here I had to enter oblivion

Q. time and effort

R. I was back in hell. You don’t laugh when you’re in hell

bridge floating in cork

maybe somebody will fish me out

I don’t know how long I was out

have to readjust to life

church - knocked on the door

“Don’t you have any older priests here.

If I had a gun I would have killed him

Q. had you been planning to leave Seattle anyway

I had a compulsion to get iout of Settle

trip was like a fantasy

some homosexuals grabbed this guy when has was asleep

driver put the homosexuals off in the desert

everything I was seeing, there was a tremendous lesson

sitting behind the bus driver looked like a gambler

the lady stood up and leaned over the guy, vomited

he thinks he’s still asleep

the bus driver saw what happened

bus driver: you clean that man up

coming home? I was going to get close to the cemetery

Bob Martin, stayed at his house a couple nights

Bob knew what happened

later I wrote Three Books of the Absolute

his wife said, “Dick, I think you lost your ego.”

cancel out all the things you think you have to have in life

I was really amazed

Martin, Babcock and Wilcox – I wrote Three books there

read three books to him

weeping

“Dick, I love you. Will you marry me?”

had 10 kids,

we were always competitive

Q. stage everything beautiful

R. once more the beauty returns

Q. how does the world appear to you know

R. I have a feeling an insane man is watching it

I know that I’m insane

there’s a little hangover

Cleveland, ran into people marching down the street

they looked at me like I was crazy

50,000 Polacks from Parma going to the ball game

west side of Cleveland

Alliance, Ohio

this came over me

I’m still searching for methods

open people’s minds, Difficult because people are obsessed

on the brink so I could push them

you don’t get dividends right away

some of them are sincere

we take away a body and the confused mater, we are a vector in another dimension

there’s nothing wrong wit dying, but some forms of dying I don’t look forward to.

I’ve been happy ever since I heard about Dahmer

it takes determination to eat someone else’s biceps

tenderized him before he killed him

Q. certain aspects of depression

R. not only depression, you’ll go through hell

the devils will scatter when he comes out with that laugh

Q. before the experience

that was physical

sitting in a yoga position

farm, no fire, blanket Blavatsky

something had me by the nose, a mouse, channeling the warm air

shot a lot of holes in the baseboard

Q. emotional state prior to the experience

I don’t know what my emotional state is

Nobody will believe you if you talk but yourself

Q. certain combination of turmoil, pain

R. you’re trying to get the recipe, the ideal piece of cake. [

File 3

00:00

I knew I was dying

when I came back there wasn’t a bit of pain

I had help

Q. Do you think he pain was necessary

I think you have to die

Q. What was causing the anguish?

R. People like you. [laughter] rephrase that, will you?

Once all your chips are on the table, and you’re going to lose

I didn’t know I was going to wake up afterword

are you taping this

Q. do you think people dream

I call it a roll of film

more clearly than if you were awake

hospital, man dying of cancer

got to talking about death

your life is already on film

he said, “I need another roll.” I hope he got it

after death you move around

baby awakens from another dimension

would like to explore

another dimension, possible restrictions

I got dropped off the cliff

there are things you can come to a conclusion, philosophically

mental experience beyond a shadow of a doubt

when I went away to the seminary

priest came out

I kept staring at him

I saw him dead; he was a dead man right in front of me

“Father Philips is going to die”

Mother said, “Shut up.”

this is another dimension when a person is on the point of death

business partner 0’ house trailer Bridgeport, Ohio

she was hoping to win Binho

I said, “Uh oh, he’s going.”

this man talked to me through the hand

“He’s dying.”

“But he told me he’s dying.”

these kids shouldn’t witness this

volunteer fire department

he died that night

I had no doubt that it would happen

smell flowers around a house in winter

Ralph Dicker

later shot himself

the whole family died; I’m trying to think of which ones went first

synchronicity

this boy got so where he could smell the flowers

“Yeah, I can smell the flowers.”

under your mother’s picture

it wasn’t a week ot two, his son died

this epileptic appeared to his brother physically

Ralph called me on the phone

can you come out about 11:00?

all of a sudden somebody walks through the room

this is the exact thing he’d do every hour of the night

I don’t argue with it

I realize that I’m able to tough things that oethrr people don’t touch

Q. Do you ever get nostalgic?

R. I’ll have to think about that

Q. pull and push at the same time

We live in pictures of the past sometimes

Augie: our original fall from truth into relativity

It’s out there but you’ve got to go through yourself to get there

Q. celibacy

“Can I rub your belly and make a wish?” George Blazer.

the beauty of motherhood is very important

what counts is that sacrifice to the other party.

hate is poison

she went out to Arizona and got a divorce

she could have taken half my property but didn’t take anything. She took a suitcase

sex shatters you

28:00

Q. A lot of questions, what happens after you die

R. Anything mentioned in this dimension can’t be given <<<<<<from video

I felt that I was one with God

there would have been two of us

and that’s when I said, “I want to see the human race”

but I was testing so to speak

I asked a foolish question, got a foolish answer

there’s rue of creation that if you talk about them you mess them up <<<<<<from video

one thing you do is don’ brag about it

I was observing stuff but I didn’t have any argument

silly question gets a silly answer

I had heard the words

Bob Martin would say “samadhi”

If I had doubts about it, it would mean that I didn’t make the trip

wrong to be an orator

the reason

you fight your way through the door

there are people in this group that have the ability to go the whole way

start fighting, stop listening and start doing

I don’t think a person should go for enlightenment

get past ignorance

change your lifestyle

“leave vaguely” Augie: “I will take leave of thee:

were you talking about your death <<<<<<from video

life is vagueness

heaven has to be a happy place

Q. you talk about thinking ; I use sculpture, creating moods

R vanity

the art colonies are all full of degenerates

was up in the Catskills

Wake everybody up in the hotel

when I was a starving artist she kept me

she killed herself

last letter I got from him, she cut her wrists

beauty and dignity to them

firecracker went off in their head Jerry Dadds, artist, Lee Warfield worked for him

File 4

00:00

there are exceptions; there are good people

Q. they push their work in a certain way

R. yes, if they push

In DC? Thomas Cole. Four stages of man

1 baby in a boat, angel at the helm

2 virile man

3 stopping the waves

4 old man praying, angel coming back

Q. people in thr group talking about the work but not doing it <<<<<< from video

R. Well you could be celibate

keep track of your battle scheme

take a big step out of ignorance

I don’t believe in sitting down for the purpose of meditation

if you’ve got a faculty, learn to develop that faculty

I got Blavatsky’s books

wrap up in a blanket

books piled with data

tremendous amount of information

700-800 pages, loaded with wisdom

psychically inspired to write

Patanjali – the pure yogi

in Tibet before him [no, India - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapila

Not Milarepa

Stop an army – Kapila

yogis could stop animals

Blavatsky wrote

In Tibet today, lift immense big blocks of stone, bowing horns

photographed this procedures

blow horns, chant mantras, blocks float up

Blavatsky, power of vril.

Guy in Florida, made the gates out of stone Coral Castle

he never talked about it either

how much power he had

a tremendous lot that people can do

but he didn’t say how.

this type of activity, don’t speak about it

that destroys the formula

in the Direct-Mind Experience, wrote formula, betweenness,

Q. why is the pursuit of knowledge a path vs meditate

None of the yogis who sat in meditation came up with an answer

the secret behind power is the use of it

Swedenborg, remark, people who quit breathing

I don’t tell you to pursue knowledge I tell you to provoke our mind to think

absolute answer with a relative mind

How to hear people, couldn’t, wouldn’t tell you

Norbu Chen

I won’t last very long

Reason Christ was killed

burnt himself out by lifting too many rocks

go to sleep, 101 things to do

act in silence, generate power in silence

I’m running out of gas

your direction has to be one of acquisition

what I want

meditation without activity is a waste of time

Q. each person has certain abilities

R. an analogy I can give you

action with thinking. Without fear of failure of hope of gain

have egoless, have to drive

like raising 20 kids

have to focus

there’s a power that functions in the formula

that education’s your muscle

but your priority has to be the other

you have to prove that to yourself

Q. you also have to eat

R. you also have to work

head chemist

I decided I don’t want to be a chemist

streptomycin

Denver Colorado, National Jewish Hospital

Q. so few jobs that give you freedom

R..everything’s miserable

have to get a few knots on your head

Augie: consternation on people’s faces

R. I don’t want you to try betweenness. One day you’ll discover it

Q. you’ve advocated against faith

R. that’s the paradox

and you better have it. You better fight for what you believe in. but you’ve got to be right.

Bart: Way to go Aug

R. I believe you should act o what you believe

and that’s the way you go

go with the flow winds up in the sewer

you’ll take a certain stand because you like it

I’ll drop the garbage

improvements in our philosophy

truth will make you free And it will. it can also get you killed

you’ll get revelations

these give you strength

celibacy gives real strength

by the time you get the ego developed, that’s the time you fall off the throne

30:00

Q. have you learned anything new, building on the prior

R. If I answered you I would sound egotistical

When you get control of yourself

power

power transmitted from one person to another

monkey needs contact with mother

realization that you’re safe

as of now you know nothing

chances are a billion to one

there’s something planned against all these possibilities

ketone enzymes

homo sapiens, from the scum on the water

[Fred comes in]

you don’t have to analyze

go so long without weakening yourself

you’ll know that you have power

look for ways and means of discovering what is unspeakable

education can be an ego

I knew I couldn’t work in a plant

I had the farm back there

I got the books

stimulate activity in the mind

books that are related

formula is very simple. ou take the first step <<<<<< from video

children will have very little spiritual chance

intuition is

invisibles and intangibles

sex education in school

you’re not going to have any celibacy in this country

we will become a race of dogs

they’re not going to protect the children

become as a child

that means purity

send her over to school, they tell her this is something you have to learn

entities that wanted to consume the human race

entities feed off human energy

sex energy

temptation is a mental message

they want the commodity

maybe we’re their food supply

Q. Moody, Life After Life

R. Because his whole life was drinking and whoring around

the masses are headed for a crude, animal existence

Congress passes a law

Don’t blame anybody in particular

Congress is basically educating kids that there’s nothing wrong

should teach not to hate it but to avoid it.

Q. Mr Rose, you speak about entities, they sound ike some little creature or something. I’m really not sure …

[break in tape]

[file 4 ends at

Footnotes

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