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== Comments on ecology ==
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dw3-16:37

You can’t have a physical, frontal assault on a subjective matter, especially when the subjective matter is only the polarity of another undefined thing called “good”. There is no good nor bad, there is only that which the engineer designed. And we’re not smart enough to change it. And that goes for our so-called social systems, and that goes for ecology. We’re trying to change the ecology. We’re not doing anything wrong. >> removed starting here >> I think we have a toss-up: whether we burn all the coal and the oil and cause a carbon umbrella, in which we can’t breathe, or we poison the streams and everything with tin cans. but do you think we’re going to change any of these? I doubt it seriously. We may evolve; all this may led us to evolving. One of the things that puzzles me, I hear so much talk about the opposition to nuclear energy. Well. I often wonder that if they knew that the black umbrella of carbon was what caused the ice age. [footnote] and the only thing that survived it were dinosaurs that breathed in [under] water. Things that breathed in the water; that’s where the oxygen was, and near the forest where the water grew to above the forest edge.

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footnote: In the 1970s the environmentalists were predicting a new ice age.

dw3-18:00


== Comments on seminar ==

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It’s getting about that time. Are there any questions? I’ll still be glad to – if any of you wish to attend tomorrow, you can make arrangements back there. because we’re going to get into this business tomorrow of digging into your concepts, your convictions – not to change it, not to, there’s no doctrine to replace. Just to within a few hours time to give you a perspective that will call you to think.

[heavy applause]

Mike Casari: I want to take a few more minutes of your time to let you know that there are books by Richard Rose available at the back table. There’s a mailing list back there, if you haven’t already put your name on it. This is for the purpose of contacting you for future programs such as this. Seminar tickets are available; they’re $20. The seminar will start at 10 o’clock here in the library and probably run until about 2 or however long anybody can stand it. Thank you very much.
Casari email June 9, 2015 – there was no seminar. No tickets sold.

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